How Republicans Are Making It More Difficult For Texas Women To Vote

Mayhem

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-palombo/what-19th-amendment_b_4124137.html

It's a trend lately, that if a party is afraid of losing an election, they pass legislation barring key groups in their opponents' base from voting. And clearly, it's something Texas has taken to heart. Right after Wendy Davis declared that she was running for governor, Texas Republicans set out to disenfranchise women from voting, 19th Amendment be damned.

And the way they're keeping ladies out of the voting booth it is a doozy.

From The New Civil Rights Movement:

As of November 5, Texans must show a photo ID with their up-to-date legal name. It sounds like such a small thing, but according to the Brennan Center for Justice, only 66 percent of voting age women have ready access to a photo document that will attest to proof of citizenship. This is largely because young women have not updated their documents with their married names, a circumstance that doesn't affect male voters in any significant way. Suddenly 34 percent of women voters are scrambling for an acceptable ID, while 99 percent of men are home free.

Adding another wrinkle to the plan, women in Texas must show original documents of the name change: a marriage certificate, a divorce certificate, or a court-ordered name change certificate -- and no photocopies are allowed. This leaves women in Texas either scrambling to gather the proper paperwork and get their ID in order before the registration cut-off, or leaves them unable to vote.

As ThinkProgress points out, getting approved copies of these documents is often expensive or difficult for many, especially low-income women, to obtain:



Constituents must show original documents verifying legal proof of a name change, whether it is a marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered change -- they are prevented from using photocopies. In the absence of original documents, voters must pay a minimum of $20 to receive new copies. Due to inflexible work schedules and travel expenses, voters often opt to have their documents mailed, incurring additional costs.


Similar to how poor, minority, and elderly voters in Pennsylvania had trouble getting to the DMV to obtain a state ID or driver's license before the election, women in Texas are having trouble getting an acceptable photo ID that matches their most current name.

The clear argument for this law is that people prove who they are to vote -- that they are citizens, that they live where they say the live and are who they claim to be. The clear argument against this law is that it specifically targets women in a year where a controversial, pro-choice woman is running for the highest office in a state with a conservative, pro-life dominated government. The timing isn't an accident.

This law comes after a summer showdown in the state house over abortion restrictions, where Davis stood for hours telling the stories of Texas women who made the agonizing decision to terminate their pregnancies. When the state government went ahead with passing the restrictions -- despite the law being passed after midnight, despite the cries of thousands of men and women who stood strong in the state house lobby protesting the decision, despite the entire country watching the fight on CNN, Twitter, and YouTube -- Davis' popularity and reputation for fighting for women soared. Rick Perry has a reason to be scared of Davis, his own popularity with women is low, most likely due to his strict reproductive health restrictions, gutting of childcare funding, and opposition to equal pay.

Texas clearly isn't afraid of shutting people out on Election Day -- just hours after the Supreme Court knocked down Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act this past summer, Texas declared that its new voter ID law and redistricting plan were effective immediately. This move gerrymandered the state even more in favor of conservative legislators, and shut out thousands of poor, elderly, minority, and student voters without proper ID. Added with this move to cut thousands of women out of the voting pool, I have to ask: who exactly is left to vote in Texas?

It seems that if the Tea Party gets their way, the only people left to vote will be wealthy white men. And while that is exactly what the Founding Fathers did back in Revolutionary War times, fortunately, our country has come a long way since then. We have fought too hard for voter inclusion to bar people from the polls because they don't vote the way we like them to. We live in a representative democracy where everyone's voice should be heard. If Texas Republicans want to beat Wendy Davis at the polls, they shouldn't keep women out of the polling places; they should pick a better candidate than Rick Perry.
 

bobjustbob

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I am all against women making decisions for men. It's the voter ID thing that I don't like.
 

Mariahxxx

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That was probably thought up by someone like Karl Rove. It seems like something he would come up with and then go on Fox so Hannity can climb into his asshole and declare him a genius.
 

bobjustbob

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That was probably thought up by someone like Karl Rove. It seems like something he would come up with and then go on Fox so Hannity can climb into his asshole and declare him a genius.

I know how this game is played and yea, someone should tell him to keep his money in his pocket and shut the fuck up. Can someone on the right write up a fucking plan? Show me something like that 7-7-7 plan.
 

bobjustbob

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Did you know that as recently as 1908 you could legally sell your wife at public auction in the US?

Yea, but I wouldn't sell you. You're cute and can cook. Boobies that you paid for. Hell no, I'll listen to your leftist shit tiil the cows come home.

But seriously, it was the states that finally brought womans suffrage to the forefront and got that passed. Look up woman's sufferage in NJ for some history.
 
After being away for a few days I am not sure if I am ready to jump back into these arguments. It was a nice break to be honest. My mind is still weirded out from leaving Phoenix and 80 degree weather to arriving in Denver 2 hours later to snow and 30 degrees.
 

Mayhem

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What's there to argue about? The smaller government, less laws, more freedom Party wants to disenfranchise honest Americans from voting. Your Party is lying in its teeth when it claims to do so because of voter fraud. The is no voter fraud problem in this country. And since this is usually the point where you choose to get as obtuse as possible, let me be clear on this point:
There is no voter fraud problem in this country. PERIOD.

You can't point to a single election where the loser was the winner because of fraud. You can't even point to an election that was closer than it was supposed to be. Your Party is lying to the American public, wasting the government's time instead of concentrating on jobs the way they promised during the election campaigns, and acting in violation of every principle that they claim to stand for.
 
Yes there is nothing to argue about in your mind. It is already been established that The Brennan Center has a left wing odor and is funded by Soros and The Huffington Post is about as unbiased as the Daily Caller. Am I as a conservative supposed to just accept these sources and their claims as factual? The last time I checked even poor or low income women in Texas have to pay 67-75 dollars for a marriage license. Name change unless through marriage costs a fee of 210 dollars. They are also trying to disenfranchise poor women from matrimony and identity change as well.
 
Oh and I can point to one election without even having to list the other documented cases and that is the Presidential election of 1960 where voter fraud and irregularities were such in Chicago that it was recommended to Nixon that he challenge the results but decided to not put the country through it. Even left wing historians recognize this. Now as for your claim that it is not happening of course you are bold in your assertion because the system up until Republicans wanted voter ID was such that fraud could take place under the radar without detection and without a trace. If the fraud was to the benefit of Republican vote totals the Dems would be screaming for the same measures that Repubs are, only they would be screaming from the mountain tops
 

Mariahxxx

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How about the Presidential Election of 2000 when GWB won because the state his brother was governor of and one of his good friends on the state supreme court handed him the vicotory even though he lost the popular vote? that's a pretty clear case of fraud too.

and you cannot throw the name Soros around when YOU have the fucking Koch brothers spending BILLIONS on their agenda with their Heritage Foundation. please, save that Soros shit.
 
I will even accept the possibility that the Bush election was fraudulent if you can prove it and it helps to demonstrate election fraud in the US.. Checking Denver weather again.
 

Mariahxxx

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oh come on dude. you KNOW that shit was fucking fixed. I cant say I wanted Gore to be president because that would have been horrible. But if you want to cry foul on the left that election was fucking stolen and you know it. stop being so lawyer-retentive and own up on that one. geesh
 
I am willing to accept that if it can be documented. I have no particular loyalty to Jeb or George. As for the Koch Bros. I never cite the Heritage Foundation as others cite Huffington, so it is not the same.
 

Mariahxxx

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well Huffington doesn't spend billions of dollars a year on candidates and create foundations such as the heritage foundation that do nothing more the discredit science and disenfranchise Americans. and how about Americans for Prosperity which is another Koch creation which has been lobbying with tens of millions to pressure states to deny health care coverage to lower income Americans through the Medicaid expansion contained in the Affordable Care Act.
 
Discredit science? I thought that was an impossibility. lol

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Discredit science? I thought that was an impossibility. lol
 

Mariahxxx

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not for the republican voter. very simple to do when you put words into the mouths of Rush and Hannity and Palin and Glen Beck. that's all you need to do.
 
what if Hannity says it, it must be true
 
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