Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jurors of the Eurovision Song Contest 2009

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The result was keep. Discussion to merge should take place at the article's talk page. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Jurors of the Eurovision Song Contest 2009 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Most of these are bound to be nonentities, and for those who actually are notable personalities, their being Eurovision jurors is not an especially notable characteristic. This is relevant; this list is not. It likely breaches WP:NOTDIR. Also, I invite participants to click these links: Bill Hughes, Paul Edwards, Chris Stewart. Biruitorul ^Talk 01:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I disagree. It's a cool thing to have a record of, especially in the future when there are more years of jurors available to compare. Benthorot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.238.175 (talk) 07:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge the information into the respective country's Eurovision Song Contest 2009 (e.g Albania in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009). DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 09:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per DitzyNizzy. While it might not be a characteristic worthy of a list, it's obviously important information for the article about this year's song contest. It's the first year jurors will be used again and I disagree with the nominators that they'll be non-entities. Jurors are usually chosen because they're either famous or well-respected in their field. ESC won't be any different. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and merge. I like the thought of having this overview page of the jurors, but I think the information should also be on the country pages as DitzyNizzy stated. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 12:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge unless it is completed. The contest is over and there are still way too many unknowns to make this page useful. The few that are known can simply be stated on the Country in ESC Year page. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and merge as per Grk1011 above. I agree that an overview would be helpful, and that the information should also be included on each country's article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sims2aholic8 (talk • contribs) 15:33, May 14, 2009 (UTC)

• Keep. Already this list contains names such as Corinne Hermes, Linda Martin and Paul Harrington. the list is not vaguely defined - all entries will be verifiable. Ask your self what is more likely - someone curious about who exactly these often mentioned jurors are, or who specifically are the jurors for country X. I was the former, and I was dismayed to find the information absent from Wikipedia. This thread will be useful, valued and of interet to many people. It should therefore be kept. (I also invite the creator of this deletion page to correct or remove the links for Bill Hughes, Paul Edwards, Chris Stewart if he has clearly noticed they were in error.) Dmn € Դմն 18:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • See WP:ITSUSEFUL; and yes, while a handful of jurors are notable, the great majority of the 252 I'd wager don't even have articles here. Ah, and one more link I invite you to click: Pedro Martinez! - Biruitorul ^Talk 14:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It's a good looking notable article. A bloke called Andrew^Convos_{My Messies} 06:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • See WP:ITSNOTABLE; WP:ILIKEIT. - Biruitorul ^Talk 15:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please see WP:VAGUEWAVE. Dmn € Դմն 07:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the above comments for keep.--Judo112 (talk) 09:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, this can't easily be fit in the main article. Valid subpage. ViperSnake151  Talk  13:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Voting is an integeral and notable part of the notable Eurovision contest. The people with red links may well do so because the English language Wiki has its own bias ;) doktorb _words^deeds 15:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're free to speculate, but the fact is that as far as we know, just a dozen of 252 jurors (under 5%) have been shown to have articles here. And while the fact that voting occurs may be notable (and is already recorded at Eurovision_Song_Contest_2009#Voting, precisely who votes is not of concern to us. Or shall we list all 131,257,328 individuals (many of them notable) who voted (playing a notable and integral role) in the notable United States presidential election, 2008? - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:12, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes please. It's a bit too late to for me to start the article, but if you could do it, I'll support you if an AFD is started. Dmn € Դմն 01:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• It is esssential to publicize the names so that everybody can judge the real qualifications of the jury comittee of "experts" or experts.I consider also important to refer to all vews on the matter of voting (p.e. not everybody agrees with the public being deprived of the decision and the authority given to experts). Also, a reference is needed on what makes the experts objective. Aren't they also tied to group of interests? (I am sorry I am not capable of adding those important aspects myself) Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omav (talk • contribs) 09:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It may eventually become an important historical record if continued. As this can't fit in the main article, and as the country pages are about the selection process for each country's entry, this merits its own page. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 12:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. As a Wikipedia reader, I found it interesting. --91.148.159.4 (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Please check out WP:ILIKEIT for why I found it interesting cannot considered a valid reason when considering AfD. Plutonium27 (talk) 19:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Too many blanks for a seperate article. Digifiend (talk) 11:28, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to respective countries per Ditzy. Looking at the pleas for WP:ILIKEIT, WP:ITSUSEFUL, it may eventually become an important historical record, English language wiki has its own bias, ..need to judge the real qualifications of the jury..., all entries will be verifiable - I'm wondering if some of last Saturday night's parties have gone on a bit too long. Plutonium27 (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.